oldies but goodies

there was a Henry J that raced at Weedsport  '60-'61...somewhere around there..that cat was the reason I was taken to the stock car races....#93 Harold Fuller
 

bakes

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trivia99 said:
    I also like the Schloder Valiant because of the nasty injection tubes coming through where the hood scoop should of been. Made it look kind of menacing. Well as menacing as a Valiant could look, anyway. While we're on the subject, didn't Al Tasnady drive for the early incarnation of this team at Flemington maybe in 1971 or so.
    Schloder also holds a distinction of being one of the few drivers in the "modern" era to win a feature both at Five Mile Point (2) and Shangri-La (1).

A shame about Kerry, the guy had potential as a driver.  Gone too soon as well.  His first white Pinto was a showpiece.
 

trivia99

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    Lynchmobb, Bob Burton did indeed have a Henry J in fact I think he had two of them or maybe the second one was a chopped up version of the first anyway, Burton owned that scrapyard in Homer which you could see from route 81 once you passed exit 12 going north. Burton had red and gold #101 coupes which he raced at Five Mile Point and Midstate then he showed up at Shangri-La with a gold square top coupe named "the wild one" that was followed by the Henry J's. I didn't hear of him after maybe the 1969-1970 season.  I also agree on the Kreitz car. You know we called them all Valiants but I wonder how many of them were Dodge Lancers?
    BTW. Geoff's uncle Earl kicked people's tails with his bug in the early "bug" days of Chemung and Towanda with a motor (slant 6) that was one of the ones that came stock in a Valiant. I am posting a photo of Burton's first Valiant. This photo came off a trading card which was part of a sixty card set that Fred Smith put out in mid-1967. It also has the Troyer Fairlane and the Shampine Woodshed modifieds. So it's a Fred Smith photo.
 

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BigFeet13 said:
I had a pic of the valiant somewhere, but I can't find it. I do have it on a Weedsport program after Sperry bought it.

I saw Geoff's car for the first time in the early '70s, and it was instantly my favorite modified, and still my all time favorite. It helped that my dad had a '61 valiant at the time.


Speaking of Valiants, I seem to recall that asphalt star, George Kent, had a Valiant bodied car, early in his career. I also seem to recall that the engine callout, as painted on the hood, was "440 cu.". Maybe a Chrysler engine under the hood, to go along with the MoPar body??



(and I remember the Merz Rambler, too....Yellow, with blue lettering......#33)
 

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Yes,the power plant under the #26 was a MOPAR.The bad thing about the Valiant was that the car was totaled at Fulton in a 15 car pileup going into turn 3.
 

trivia99

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    I seem to recall that the original Kent modified was an ex Bryan Osgood car which also carried a 440 cu. in. wedge motor under the hood. I was at Fulton that night thinking back that might have been one of George's maiden voyages in that car. I have photos of George in a couple of other Mopar bodied machines in the early seventies. One of which is orange and the other is white. I'm posting a Fred Smith photo of what I think is the car you're talking about. I also found a photo Bryan Osgood in the same car taken at the 1970 All Star League race. The #61 of Wall Stadium driver Bob Finger is in the background. I think the car was sold shortly thereafter to Kent. I'm thinking that massive pileup at Fulton was in late July 1970.
 

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If you recall a new driver had to start in the rear for the 1st three weeks.It was George's 3rd week and they liked what he had done for the two weeks before.Big mistake !!!He started up front and Sonny Seamon said ''come on kid,get moving''and gave George a shot in the shorts going into 3 and that's when it all came to end for the Valiant.One of the cars that was on top of the 26 was Sammy Reaks in the #451 coach.
 
Not a lot of info for this photo. Roger Triechler with the hardware and what appears to be a nifty STP jacket heading his way. Perhaps some one out there can shed some light on the particulars of this picture. No photog info (Ken Burnside collection)
 

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Best guess on the above photo and a caption and the people involved. On the far right looks like Jim Vollertson who was involved with Spencer in the sixties, Lancaster in the mid-seventies and then NEARA. Next to him looks like Roger's brother Gordy who was running a Late Model then Roger then an STP rep who's name escapes me but I do remember STP had a large involvement in western New York hence the sponsorship for the big end of the year races at Lancaster in 1967 and 1968 won by Don Diffendorf and Dutch Hoag. Comparing the photo of Treichler's car and the fact that Vollertson is in the photo with a coat and tie on and the nearness of the fence and crowd in the background I would say it's an STP sponsored event from 1968 at Spencer Speedway. I compared the car in the photo with ones in my collection and the ones in the John Bisci book "Lancaster Heroes" and it looks like car pictured from 1968. If it is at Spencer chances are it's probably a Norm Patrick or Bob Hunter of Gater photo as they were I think the track photographers at the track.
 

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I don't know who the guy on the left is, and the next three guys are indeed correct with Roger Treichler and his brother Gordy along with former Lancaster promoter (through 1984) Jim Vollertsen. It was probably a Lancaster STP qualifier event that was held at Spencer. It was taken at the latest by 1968 if that's true as the name for the STP event changed to Amalie Pro for the 1969 season-ending Lancaster event.
 

rsk1139

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I think the car in the picture of Merv Treichler's #24 was a Chevy II. His cousin Roger raced a Studebaker about this same time.
 

trivia99

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    The first time I ever saw a picture of Merv Treichler was in an old Cavalcade of Auto Racing from the early sixties. He was on the outside pole at a big Late Model on the dirt at Olean and for the life of me I can't remember what kind of car it was. I do remember it wasn't one of the "run of the mill" type cars. Maybe that was the Studebaker. Anyway I found another photo in John Biscsi's book on the same page as the #24 of Merv. It was cousin Roger in what looks to be a Chevy II #25 owned by Phil Kerwin. Good stuff.
 

BigFeet13

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2 are probably Bob Hunter Pics
 

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Photos from the Bob-Cat Sporting News...(All from Dundee) 1)  Jim Strauf in the #9 trys to fight off George Robbins but lost out during the late model main.
2) Tom Smalley in the #00 gets three big wins (two sportsman and one late model) all in the same night. 3) Ted Newland takes it to the high side to win the mini-stock main.  (Ken Burnside collection)
 

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A few more from the Bob-Cat Sporting news... (all from Dundee) 1) Tom Smalley (#00) slips by Chuck Kennison (9x) on the inside to beat him out of a late model heat win. By the way... Smalley is in a sportsman. 2) The sportsman driver of car #9 removes a fender of the 12x of Gene Hoose.  (Ken Burnside collection)
 

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    While in the process of trying to catalogue photos I came across this. Back when Shangri-La started it's Street Stock class (I think they were last of the upstate tracks to do this) they had to build the class. One of the first entrants was this unusual piece co-driven by Ron Messemer (pictured) and Gary Allen. I think the year was 1974 and it was a Fred Smith photo. Both these gentlemen are still alive and living in area.  Love these oddball cars that we grew up with.
 

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    Just want to re do the last post. I cropped it down so far you couldn't see the car in the background. It was one of the iconic cars of the early SS era, the "Plum Crazy" #31 Ford of Rochester's Dick Nolte. Ranks right with Don Dippel's Cyclone as one of the best in the early days. Better picture this time. Still trying to figure out how to resize to get under the limit.
 

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trivia99 said:
..... Ranks right with Don Dippel's Cyclone as one of the best in the early days.

One of my old "racing buddies", who now lives in Florida, e-mailed me a few racing shots, this past winter, and speaking of Don Dippel, it appeared that Don wound up with Maynard Troyer's second NASCAR Cyclone. Although our information is pretty sketchy, we think that Don raced it at Trenton, at least once....
 

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